I can appreciate almost any music genre, but I find myself reluctantly agreeing with everything in this article by J Ro recently posted on The Seminal web site. Hip hop isn’t dying, it just sucks.
Badly.
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14 Comments
It does not suck, YOU just dont know how to do it well
the soundrack for a pop-collar chad to drop roofies into the drinks of some unsuspecting suburban bubblehead has become indistinguishable from that of a 16 year old mallrat. what sells & what’s good have been 2 different things for a long time. pop fluff will never resonate with the streets, & in the end hip hop that doesn’t suck will go back underground (property of those in the know). it happened to hair-metal, it’ll happen to hip hop. the responisbility lies with us….
Thanks for the link. Glad you agree.
As for Sly, things may go back underground, but I don’t think that underground is in good shape right now. The roots need to be stronger than the branches for things to be all right in the hip hop world.
WTF?!!!
Hip Hop is a whole culture, not just a musical genre. The fact it has succeeded and gone mainstream definitely turned the more visible parts of it into mainstream consumer production, but you can still find the good stuff where it originally came from - the neighborhood artists.
Still, I think you’re going too far with this declaration. Hip Hop is Hip hope for many, don’t kill it.
VirtualFlavius
Hip HOP DON’T SUCK IT’S THA BESTED MUSIC IN THA LAND BUT U CAN’T LIE NOW A DAYS HIP HOP IZ BOUT HOES,BLING,MONEY,CLOTHES= THE GLAMOROUS LIFE.I THINK HIP HOP GOT 2 DEM.NAS SAID IN HIS SONG HH IS DEAD:I COULD OF WENT LEFT SO LIKE MY GRL FOXY THA KID WENT DEF!!!!!
If you think hip hop sucks your most likely listening to mainstream hip hop and not the REAL hip hop..
Hip hop has always been good, people just don’t what to look for or who to look for because good hip hop is underground…none of this crap that is commercialized. Educate yourself
Hip-hop sux, in my opinon, i do like eminem, public enemy, and beasty boys, but that about it, metal is much better, hip pop is just a conformist type of music, metal breakes boundries, and doesnt conform to anything
My biggest problem with current Hip-Hop (that I have heard, local / underground or comercial) is that there is NO musical content. Three notes on a stock synth preset do not constitute music. I believe the ROOTS of hip-hop were so good due to all of the sampling of complex jazz and funk riffs. It seemed like by combining what seemed to be the little pieces of greatness in those old songs created something new and better. However, nowadays even local so-called underground hip-hop is using a lot of midi and software synths with default synthesizer presets. That said, even the older stuff had a message behind the lyrics. Not just a catchy jingle like a McDonalds comercial. I will say that I feel since hip-hop has made it into the mainstream culture it has one direction to go (back underground) but that doesn’t mean it will get better. It just means it will go somewhat off the comercial radar so to speak.
Just my two cents.
I think the main reason people don’t like hip hop is because it all sounds so similar, there is little real music and the vocals are usually just annoying and dominating. It’s like listening to somebody who just won’t shut up. Not to mention the fact that most hip hop you hear is negative and degrades women.
I agree with the other hip-hop heads on here that the genre is alive and well, but that the “popular” rap music they play on the radio is ridiculous blather about partying, money, hoes, and drug-pushing. Sadly, nowadays people seem to prefer the mind-numbing albums by Young Jeezy, Lil’ Wayne, and Three-6 Mafia to socially conscious rappers like Mos Def, Talib Kwali, and Common. We true supporters of the genre need to keep seeking out and supporting quality works of hip-hop in order to keep the art form alive and its artists viable.
HIP HOP IS FOR THE OLDER PEOPLE THAT LOVE THAT FIELD.MAINSTREAM RAP IS FOR THE PARTY GOERS AND THE FAKE HUSTLERS.THEN YOU GOT THE CROSSOVERS WITH THAT SUGAR FREE FAKE AINT NEVER HAD A LIFE TYPE PEOPLE.HIP HOP IS FOREVER,THE OTHER STUFF IS FOR THE PIMPS AND HOES AND EVERY OTHER HYPOCRITE THAT FLAUNT THEIR CLOTHES,KRS KNOWS SO HE JUST GROWS ALWAYS SAYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM THE AVERAGE JOES.PEACE.
Hip Hop isn’t progressing at the pace of other music, and the word needs to be poetry, not an overpowering assertion in the declarative. 4 Hero, more known for their drum n’ bass and broken beats, has a song called I’ve Known Rivers, which is Langston Hughe’s The Negro Speaks of Rivers put to drum n’ bass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OctC7nnkAs&feature=related
Amazing.
Jimpster did a song with Capitol A called Left and Right - hip hop meets nu-jazz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PWUHgJaeNw
Tight.
Hip Hop, even the underground stuff, is all too often lacking in sophistication, interesting musical qualities, and good poetry. Hip Hop needs to really push. It’s like many of the artists don’t have vision beyond what hip hop has always sounded like. I want my hip hop to make me stop and ask whether or not I’m really listening to hip hop. It almost needs to transcend my concepts of a genre, or even music.
I disagree, look at what Aesop Rock is doing, he has created something amazing. Many people have criticized him because his lyrics are impossible to understand when in fact they are just complicated and full of double meanings. If you doubt underground hip hop and what it can produce I suggest you actually take the time and try to find some of the music that is currently out there, not what was playing back in ‘94.
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